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    The US is basically a “this is good for bitcoin”, but as a country.

    Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain’s.

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    hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they’re the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they’re building tons of housing to handle population growth. they’re financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?

    no? just wars again? okay.

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        Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don’t want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.

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          tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell

          it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol

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            If you’ll notice, it’s a 4 lane highway, which is medium level traffic, because most people take the train or electric scooters. In America this would be an 8 lane highway or bigger.

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          Fascinating as it may be, that’s a pretty horrible picture.

          Imagine living that house. It’s a pretty stark demonstration of the state gets what it wants, one way or another.

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    I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they’re only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.

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      Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it’s these two ideas that have taken over discourse.

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        Really depends on the debate club, there are plenty in conservative areas that are basically just right-wing influencer spawning grounds

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        I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.

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      Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.

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    How can people be so delusional?

    “When their salary depends on it” is a decent first answer.

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    Literally the equivalent of a homeless libertarian laughing at well to do, middle class Chinese people because he thinks he’s better off

    demonstrating that the US is willing

    Yes, because America is famous for the ambiguity around whether or not we’d go to war with global South nations

    and able

    No

    In that sense, it was already won

    The government can behave like a rabid dog, but China would Old Yeller America

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    I’d put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there’s been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don’t know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.

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      An open conflict between the US and china would probably end with exactly zero winners and an uninhabitable glowing piece of rock orbiting the sun. Maybe the cockroaches can then find a better path to communism.

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        I feel like nukes are more just showpieces than item that anyone actually considers using.

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          Japan used to think that too

          Honestly i don’t think you are completely wrong. Most of the reason for having massive nuclear weapon inventory comes as a mean to dissuasion. However that doesn’t necessarily mean they will never be used, just suggests it would not be like the apocalyptic war everyone thinks.

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            If Japan did think that, they thought it before several other countries in the world had nukes. I think any country has the ability to see that if they send nukes then they will be receiving nukes back to destroy them in about a few hours.

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        Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.

        lol the downvote. Did those governments that no longer exist actually win the wars that caused them to cease existing?

        *this doesn’t mean they were good or justified. If anyone thinks I implied or said that you need to learn how to read.

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            1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.

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              Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?

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                You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.

                Also it’s not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.

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                  Uhh no, I’m saying they didn’t win the war because they couldn’t meet their stated goals, I wouldn’t trust that country as far as I could throw it.

                  My bad for assuming, btw.

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            Do you think Saddam’s government won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.

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                Ok so you can’t win a war if it wasn’t clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.

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                  Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.

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    China and Iran are allies.

    If the US and China go to war Iran will close the strait to their enemies. And we’ve seen the US is impotent to that and overly reliant on oil.

    I think China just has to deal with a first strike from the US and then wait for an impotent United States to fall apart and starve.

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      I think your last point is pretty accurate. The US side has done a bunch of war games for a Taiwan invasion situation. In these games, the US side barely wins. To me, that’s evidence the US probably loses. All of the Chinese decision making is done by US military people that think like the US military. If the PLA acts differently, they could easily be in a better position. Also, the Chinese capabilities will be based on US intelligence. Unless the Pentagon knows everything about missile ranges, warhead sizes, magazine depth, aircraft speeds and ranges, etc, they won’t be able to anticipate a capability they didn’t know about.

      Probably most importantly, China has a vast industrial base and would be much closer to the fighting. All they really have to do is use up the US missile stockpiles and shoot down a few planes (probably while they’re just parked in Okinawa). Once the war becomes about who can manufacture more missiles and planes to replace losses, there’s no way the US will be able to keep up. If it becomes a protracted war, the US loses by default.

      Edit: also, I’m not so sure Iran would close the straight. But I don’t think it would matter because part of the US plans involve closing the Malaca straight to starve the Chinese of oil. They’ll do it themselves.

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    Show china youre the boss by taking hong kong back and making it independent

    And protecting them and taiwan